In this episode, I join Daniel Rekshan on an intriguing journey through abduction research, where he demystifies the terms contactees, abductees, and experiencers. We explore the intersection of dreams, sleep science, and hypnosis in understanding abductions, pondering the dreamlike quality and tangible evidence of these encounters. Daniel emphasizes the central role of consciousness, drawing on insights from both indigenous and Western shamanic practices. The discussion even touches on Havana syndrome and its potential relationship to the abduction phenomenon. As we question the nature of reality, Rekshan's insights hint at UFO phenomena being manifestations of our collective consciousness. With interest in UFOs surging, could a major breakthrough be imminent?